From Customer Service to Data Engineering: uShip’s Amy Basile on How to Make a Successful Transition Into Tech
Amy Basile is all about taking on new challenges.
Most recently, she’s been reteaching herself how to roller skate.“I used to do roller derby back in 2008. So it’s basically like I’m learning it all over again,” she shares with a smile. “It’s fun, but I feel like it hurt a lot less to fall when I was in my twenties than it does now.”
Learning new skills is something that has supported Amy in her professional life and has helped her grow from a career in retail to a Senior Data Engineer at uShip. We sat down with her to discuss how she made the transition into tech with a non-technical background and her tips to others looking to do the same.
Learning Soft Skills in Retail
In highschool, Amy’s dream career was in the culinary field. “I was enrolled in a culinary program offered at my school, I really loved baking. I wanted to become a pastry chef after I graduated, maybe opening my own bakery at some point,” she elaborates. But she wasn’t fully certain that this was the professional route she wanted to take. “Choosing a career seemed like a massive life decision, and I was open to exploring my options,” Amy says. “Growing up, I knew people who were certain of the career they wanted to pursue, or at least had an idea in mind. I admired their ability to figure it out before going to college, because I really had no clear idea of what I aspired to do.”
With the loving guidance of her parents, Amy decided to explore her options by pursuing a college degree, although she wasn’t sure that was the path she was meant to go down. “They encouraged me to pursue a degree in business administration, and I knew that wasn’t for me,” she says. After taking many introductory courses, she opted to study sociology instead thinking she would attend graduate school to become a Social Worker or Counselor. “I wanted to save up money before applying to graduate school, but little did I know that I would be graduating right at the start of the recession, so graduate school was put on the back burner.”
Fortunately, throughout college, she worked at Urban Outfitters and was able to maintain her position in retail management, which offered her stability and helped her strengthen her customer service and management skills. “Coming from retail management, people don't understand all of the different hats that you wear and the amount of hard work that goes into managing day to day operations,” Amy explains.
She was acquiring soft skills that would be helpful for her future career — and she didn’t even know it. After 7 years at the store, she decided it was time for a change.
Finding Her Way to uShip
As Amy contemplated different career options outside of retail, she unexpectedly met a uShip employee while ringing them up at Urban Outfitters. “It was the middle of the day and I noticed the customer was wearing a uShip shirt, and I asked her how her day was going.” Amy explains. The customer responded “ I just came from Habitat for Humanity. My company encourages us to do community service during work hours.”
Amy was astonished. “I thought it was amazing that they encouraged their employees to volunteer and give back to the community,” she explains. It was at that moment Amy decided she wanted to work for uShip. “I set my sights on obtaining a job with uShip, I was pretty determined,” Amy admits. “I kept my eyes open for a position, one where my skills would translate. I applied. I had two interviews and they hired me.”
Upskilling with from Customer Service
When Amy first started at uShip as a customer service rep, she used the soft skills she acquired in retail — such as communication and empathy — to successfully navigate the role. When she started to pivot into more technical roles, she found that navigation to be more difficult. “I didn't come from a [tech] background. The most I’d used a computer was for social media, spreadsheets, and some Word documents,” she confesses.
Up for the challenge, she eased into the billing and payments team. “I became a billing specialist, and that’s where I started to develop some of the skills that eventually got me into engineering.” After gaining confidence with data entry and other technical aspects of the role, she pivoted into a more technical position working with SQL Server. “It was hard to imagine myself learning new technology,” Amy admits “ I didn’t even know what SQL server was, but I was open to it. I enjoy learning new things.”
Taking on new challenges was made easier by the support and encouragement from the uShip team. “I had a mentor. He had a lot of patience and taught me a lot about the syntax and how to optimize my queries.” Amy explains. “I was very fortunate that my managers encouraged my growth and advocated for me.”
Just when she thought she was done, a new opportunity presented itself. “The head of QA reached out to me and asked me if I wanted to interview,” she shares. And in true Amy fashion, she agreed and, shortly after, started her first engineering role. “It was so overwhelming, interesting, and fun,” Amy elaborates. “You're constantly learning, everything is constantly changing, but you need to kind of figure it out as you go.”
Amy was able to use her past experience to help her excel in this new role. “There were specific issues that would come up requiring database updates, since I was familiar with the data, I started fixing any of these issues when they would arise,” she shares. She was able to advance her skills and create solutions, and others took notice.
“The data architect at the time asked if I had any interest in becoming a database administrator” Amy explains. Although she had never considered a position like that, she decided to accept the challenge. “I moved onto the team and worked my way up to the role of database developer”
She spent time working alongside the data architect, taking on different roles until they eventually built a team where she is now a senior data engineer. Now in this leadership role, Amy credits her success to her mentors and a combination of soft and hard skills.
Hard and Soft Skills that Lead to Success
Many of Amy’s soft skills from retail transferred over to her work with uShip — one of the most important being interpersonal communication. “It’s being able to approach people with empathy and compassion,” she shares. Along with being open to giving and receiving constructive feedback, communication skills are important as a leader. “When you're talking to a developer, and saying that something is broken, You have to be kind yet candid,” Amy explains.
Along with being able to effectively communicate, a skill that Amy learned through experience was resilience.“In any technical role, failure is pretty common, I break things more often than I'd like to admit.” advises Amy. “It's important to learn from those mistakes and grow from them. When you fall, you’ve got to get back up.”
In addition to these soft skills, some hard skills can come in handy. Over the years, Amy has developed some hard skills that have led to her success, such as “SQL, database administration, data engineering programs, Snowflake, and a bit of Python.”
Advice for Those Looking to Pivot into Tech
Pivoting into a new field can be overwhelming, but rewarding. For those looking to make an unconventional career move, Amy offers the following advice.
- Don’t downplay your skills. “I would always downplay my skills,” Amy confesses. “I was scared that my retail management experience wouldn't equate to something people would take seriously.” Instead, look at the value your unique set of skills can bring to a particular job role.
- Have tenacity. Sometimes landing a job takes time and persistence. Amy advises you to remember that “not getting a call or an email back isn’t always a setback. Keep pushing through.”
- Be willing to learn new things. “Try to put yourself out there and learn new things,” Amy encourages. “Companies hire you based on your skill set, but also your capacity to learn, that's something that I wish I knew back then.”
If you’re looking to jumpstart your professional development like Amy, check out the opening positions at uShip.
Tiffany Witwer from Elastic is a proud mom of three.
“I enjoy being a parent because it teaches me patience and it gives me a different perspective,” she shares. “It allows me to be more present, laugh more, and appreciate the small things.”
In between her duties as a mom, she keeps herself mentally and physically healthy by running, biking, swimming, or doing yoga — all activities that help her start the day with gratitude. "It gives me the right perspective and attitude to go into the day,” she says.
With an overall positive outlook on life, Tiffany brings that same energy to her customers at work as the Head of Customer Service for Elastic.
We sat down with Tiffany, who shared with us her career journey from civil engineering to customer service. Keep reading to learn top tips for creating happy customers.
Starting a Career in Engineering
Tiffany pursued an undergraduate degree in biological engineering.
“I was always really good at math and science, especially chemistry. And I love being outside in nature and learning about it,” she shares.
It was a college professor’s research on stormwater runoff that motivated her to pursue her master's degree in biological and civil engineering. “I liked his energy and attitude toward learning. It was contagious,” she describes.
While working alongside this professor at North Carolina State University, she presented her work at a conference that helped lay the groundwork for her career. “I met a man who liked my presentation," she says, "and was hiring a civil engineer for a consulting company.”
Taking on this new opportunity, she moved to New York City where she discovered her love of being surrounded by diverse people and cultures, in addition to her new job.
“I enjoyed doing the design work and meeting the customers,” she explains. "I was always the one on the proposals, winning the design work, and building relationships with customers.”
While emerging in the complex realm of storm waste engineering, Tiffany saw how the world was progressing and thought that knowing software and technology would be beneficial.
“So I learned to code, networked, and got a job at a business analytics and software company as a pre-sales systems engineer,” Tiffany says.
Pivoting into a Customer Success Role
As she dedicated more time to customers, her interest in working with them soon began to increase. “What I loved most was that I was using my mind to solve problems, but I also got to interface with customers. I got to meet customers and hear what they were doing and hear how we could help them.”
Tiffany spent 10 years in pre-sales engineering and sales. She then took a job in a different company where she helped build out their advisory services business.
It was there that she built a successful team with coworkers who would lead her to her position at Elastic.
Elastic is the leading platform for search-powered solutions. They help enhance customer and employee search experiences, keep mission-critical applications running smoothly, and protect against cyber threats.
As the Head of Customer Service, Tiffany is responsible for making sure customers are getting the most value out of their software. "It's not only about how customers are using the technology," she explains. "It’s, ‘how is a customer's experience with Elastic? Are we meeting their need for technology?’ And, ‘are we meeting their needs from a support and empathy standpoint?’”
In order to meet her customers’ complex needs, she emphasizes how crucial communication is.
The Importance of Communication in Customer Success
Quality communication is a skill that can often be undervalued. “I think people underestimate how much time is needed for clear communication,” she points out. “Just because you put a message out there, it doesn't mean it’s clearly understood. You need to think through how people are going to respond to the information.”
With the complexities of communication, Tiffany relies on setting clear intentions when communicating in meetings. “I always ask at the beginning, ‘what is your goal for this meeting and what does success look like for you?’" she explains.
Communicating clearly what success looks like for both parties allows for a better outcome. “I think for communications, it's making a lot of time and clearly defining what you want to get out of the interaction.”
Advice for Clear Communication with Customers
Tiffany’s career journey has been a mixture of understanding technology and building relationships with people — learning how to explain the technology to customers and problem solve in an empathic way. This has led to overall customer success. To create clear communication, Tiffany offers this advice.
- Be empathetic and listen to your customers: “If you think about it, you've been trained in your technology, you know it inside and out,” she explains. "But when you meet with a customer, the technology may only be a small part of their job.” Taking this perspective can help you to communicate with more empathy. “It's understanding people's vantage point and then using that to communicate to them.”
- Defining success and clearly communicating it: “I'm a strong believer in getting on calls and confirming the goals and what people want to get out of the call," Tiffany shares. "This way, you know, you are aligned on what success is no matter what type of call.”
- Be genuine: “At the end of the day, people will remember how you made them feel," she shares. "I think for me, it's about being a good human and making the world a better place. And if you can do that in your job as well, that's a win-win.”
- Get to know people: “Getting to know people, their perspectives, and growing with them is what has led me to customer success and to where I am in my career,” Tiffany advises.
We all have our favorite websites– the ones we frequent, bookmark, and recommend to others. You might even enjoy some website features so much that you’ve found yourself wondering why they aren’t more popular. Or maybe you’ve experienced times where you were frustrated with a website and wished you could add features or even design your own!
If you’ve ever found yourself intrigued at the prospect of designing and developing your own websites, then a career as a web developer might be just for you!
As a web developer you would be responsible for coding, designing, optimizing, and maintaining websites. Today, there are over 1.7 billion websites in the world and, in turn, the demand for web developers is on the rise. In order to figure out what kind of web development work best suits you let’s start with an introduction to the three main roles in web development that you can choose from.
The Three Types of Web Development Jobs
Front-End Web Development: The Creative Side
In addition to programming skills, front-end developers need to be detail oriented, creative, willing to keep up with the latest trends in web development, cyber security conscious, and geared toward user-friendly designs. The median salary for a front-end developer can reach well into the $90,000 to $100,000 range.
Back-End Web Development: The Logical Counterpart
While a house can be beautifully decorated, it’s incomplete without a solid foundation and efficient infrastructure. Similarly, a well-designed website depends on logical and functional code to power the features of that website. Back-end web development is code-heavy and focused on the specifics of how a website works. If you enjoy the analytical challenge of creating the behind-the-scenes code that powers a website, then back-end development is for you.
Full-Stack Web Development: A Little Bit of Everything
A full-stack developer is essentially the Jack (or Jill)-of-all-trades in web development. Full-stack developers need to be knowledgeable about both front-end and back-end roles. This does not necessarily imply that you would need to be an expert in both roles, but you should fully understand the different applications and synergies they each imply. In order to work in this position, you will need to know the programming languages used by front-end and back-end developers. In addition to these languages, full-stack developers also specialize in databases, storage, HTTP, REST, and web architecture.
Full-stack developers are often required to act as liaisons between front-end and back-end developers. Full-stack developers need to be both problem solvers and great communicators. The end goal for a full-stack developer is to ensure that the user’s experience is seamless, both on the front-end and on the back-end. In return, you can expect to earn a median salary of $100,000 – $115,000 a year for this role.
Taking the Next Step
Web development is both in-demand and lucrative! All three roles described above contribute to specific aspects of web development and the scope of each one can be customized to the industries and positions you feel best suit you. Regardless of which role you choose, all of them need a foundation in programming.
To gain the programming skills needed in each role, you can enroll in courses or learn independently. Coding bootcamps are a great way to boost your skillset quickly and efficiently.
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Josephine Roh loves brunch. Particularly hosting it — and bringing special dishes to life to share with her friends.
The latest recipe she’s mastered is for lemon ricotta pancakes.
Cooking is part art and part science, which might be why the senior technical writer for fintech platform Moov is such a big fan of it.
“I’ve always liked using both sides of my brain,” says Josephine, who studied English literature in college, in line with her right-brain strengths, but also added an economics major to sharpen the analytical left side of her brain. She credits this double-barreled approach with setting her up well for her current career.
“It prepared me to be a holistically well-rounded person when it comes to how I think and work,” she says.
We sat down with Josephine to hear more about how she found her way into a career in technical writing, as well as the tips and tricks she has for people interested in following in her footsteps.
A Career Exploration
Josephine started her tech career in customer success at an edtech startup. “It was great training because at a startup you wear lots of hats,” she recalls, noting experiences in user research and operations. After trying a more quantitative-heavy role that gave her exposure to fintech, she realized she wanted something more creative, with an innovative, distributed company.
That’s how she found Moov.
“I was looking for a place with a remote-first culture, and Moov stood out. Some places were hybrid, or said, ‘Maybe we’ll go back to the office,’ but Moov originated without an office and intended to stay that way,” she says. “But I didn’t want it to just be remote — I also wanted it to be very human.”
To Josephine, that meant a culture of coworkers getting to know each other, respecting each other, and caring about each other — which is how she’s experienced Moov’s culture.
“There’s a lot of mutual understanding,” she says. “Something kind of sweet Moov does is this monthly “unbemoovable” meeting where someone shares their story, with pictures, to the extent that they want to. We’ve heard a lot of nontraditional, exciting stories, including from career switchers, and it lends itself to an angle of diversity and creativity that feels like a very healthy, human-first culture.”
Her first few months on the job were spent learning about the product, coming up the curve on technical writing, and pulling together documentation. After finishing the first set of docs, Josephine decided to start focusing on making Moov’s documentation better.
Her manager saw and appreciated Josephine’s initiative and promoted her to senior technical writer, which made her feel like she had chosen the right environment for her growth.
“Moov has let me run with this, building our docs from the ground up because there wasn’t red tape. There weren’t people standing in my way saying, ‘No, this is not how you do it.’ Me being comfortable with that ambiguity and trusting that people like my manager were supporting me, allowed me to be able to grow in my career to where I am now,” she says.
Technical Writing: An Intro and 5 Tips
Josephine explains what technical writing is by referencing a multi-layered puzzle. “You have to understand a certain level of technical stuff, then be able to build a translation layer and explain it in a way that anyone can understand,” she says.
“It’s about writing guides and documents that help developers implement or integrate with different software. It requires some level of knowledge of how developers think and speak, as well as the tools that they're going to be using to make things happen.” That can take the form of API-heavy reference documents, which are more technical, or more “prose-y guides” that explain more holistically what a feature is and how to use it.
Here’s what Josephine recommends to others interested in the field:
- Make sure you have the right skill set. “Tech writing is good for folks who like writing, and don't mind writing about things that they don't yet understand, who are comfortable with ambiguity or diving into the challenge of learning something new and very specific.” Other key skills, per Josephine: interviewing, talking to people, process management, research, relationship building, editing, writing (duh!), and empathy (to imagine the final product from different audiences’ points of view).
- Brush up on key tools. “I’d recommend that future tech writers learn the suite of tools they’d work with. It’s almost imperative that you would know Markdown, which is kind of like HTML, but it's the language that formats text. It’s what most tech writers type in, basically. It would be good to know how API references are generated, too, and also helpful to know how to work with GitHub.”
- Interview other tech writers! “People are super open to talking about their experiences and because it's different at every company, you may want to get a more holistic perspective and talk to a couple of people. The company really makes or breaks your experience.”
- Practice, practice, practice. “Look at the world of open source. If you want hands-on experience, look for a project with incomplete documentation and ask the owner if you can help with documenting it!”
- Find communities to learn with. Josephine says that the online technical writing community is active and generous. “There are communities for any question you might have about tech writing, as well as free resources. I definitely recommend them.” As far as specific resources and communities go, Josephine personally suggests the following:
- Google’s Technical Writing Courses
- Git and its own reference documents
- The Product is Docs: Writing technical documentation in a product development group, a book by the Splunk Documentation Team
- The Write The Docs Slack community, with job postings, recommendations, and channels for sharing other resources
💎To make a successful career move, you need to follow some steps. Watch the video to the end to get ideas on how to achieve it!
📼Wondering how to make a non-traditional career move? Play this video to get three top tips that will guide you through the process. You'll hear from Lindsay Syhakhom, Cloud Solutions Architect at Logicworks, who shares her own experience in moving from a non-technical role into a technical role.
📼 Make a career move inside your company! Tip #1: Cross team boundaries. Volunteer for tasks that cross teams at your current organization. A lot of people assume that to change careers, they also have to change employers. And that's not always the case. You can lay the foundation at your current job for the career that you want to have. Look for teams in your organization that either partially align or even fully align to the position that you want. And then think of creative ways to interface with that team.
📼 Make a career move using your institutional knowledge! Tip #2: Become the expert. If you are applying to another team in your same company, one of the advantages to your company hiring you versus hiring somebody else is that you know what the company sells, you know how teams function and take seriously that that institutional knowledge is very important. Every company has its quirks. Knowing those things is going to help you when you're applying for the next job.
Make A Career Move Confidently! - Tip #3: Ask For What You Want
Before she applied to become a cloud solutions architect, Lindsay Syhakhom had conversations with members of her team and reached out to people on other teams at Logicworks that she really trusted and had the conversation with them first. This helped take the edge off of her first conversation with HR, and with a hiring manager about her desire to move into this other field, and get their feedback. Remember that you have to apply for the job. No one can read your mind and know that you want to make this non-traditional career move!
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Get to Know Lindsay Syhakhom
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